The Case Against Reality | Prof. Donald Hoffman on Conscious Agent Theory

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We have no clue how consciousness emerges from 3 pounds of wet goo. Cognitive scientist Don Hoffman takes us deep into his research suggesting we're attacking the problem backwards. The implications may challenge all you know about our place in reality. Take the Red Pill and see how deep the rabbit hole

In this extended interview we dive into the Interface Theory of Perception (how evolution hides the truth about reality in favor of a dumbed down "user interface" that only shows us "fitness payoffs" that help us survive), the "Hard Problem of Consciousness" and how we simply have no idea how consciousness could emerge from physical matter, the non-dual theory of Conscious Realism (how reality is really a social network of "conscious agents" and our perceptions are simply the interface by which we exchange experience with other agents), the math behind conscious agent theory, implications for artificial intelligence (AI), psychedelics, spirituality, and much, much more.

Commenters have called this the best interview Don Hoffman has done. Links to our prior conversation, more info on Conscious Agent Theory and Prof. Hoffman's work, and full written transcript at
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11:22 How to win the game
14:20 You’re the author of space time
57:50 Scientific spirituality
1:21:22 The “meaning of life”
1:23:40 Dogmatism
1:24:06 The point about science is to be precise
1:26:00 Psychology
1:28:10 Logic & reason evolved as a social tool of persuasion
1:30:00 If resources were not limited, there would be no reason for competition or evolution
1:31:00 Medical industry silos
1:38:10 Psychedelics

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